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The firm I work for is currently undertaking a project on land use planning and infrastructure finance (particularly relating to land value capture), in Sub Saharan Africa (SSA) for a large, international development agency.
We have done the initial literature reviews, and have struggled to gather information on how private sector developments (malls, new 'smart' cities, commercial and residential developments etc.) in SSA cities are getting access to the services which they require (water, sanitation, waste removal and electricity mainly).
Are the developers doing the work themselves, without consulting the city master plans (if they exist)? Are they connecting to an existing grid (if it exists)? Or are they paying a form of impact fee to the local government, who in turn will provide the necessary infrastructure using this (and other) resources?
If anyone is able to help me with anecdotal evidence, or preferably references to literature written about the topic, it would be greatly appreciated.
I also think it is important beyond the scope of the particular project that has been undertaken, as private developers who are considering moving into SSA countries must understand the difficulties of working in an environment without services provided by the local authority.
 

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We know what happens. especially for those that experienced demographic explosions coupled with poor planning and occupation of lands that are not suitabkle for construction
 

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Apart from Native Brazilians. the country never had a Rural population.



SSA is not that populated and most of it population is still Rural.

Africans must MODERNIZE the rural areas so that cities feel less migration pressure.

France, Germany or Europe, Japan etc did develop their Rural world to minimize rural to city migration. which obviously prevented mass Slums.


But in Latine America, its due to institutionalized Racism why they have massive smlums next to wolrd class cities.
 

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Apart from Native Brazilians. the country never had a Rural population.



SSA is not that populated and most of it population is still Rural.

Africans must MODERNIZE the rural areas so that cities feel less migration pressure.

France, Germany or Europe, Japan etc did develop their Rural world to minimize rural to city migration. which obviously prevented mass Slums.


But in Latine America, its due to institutionalized Racism why they have massive smlums next to wolrd class cities.

Alot of Rural towns in China are becoming cities. Nowadays in China a city needs at least 5000 citizen. Rural zones are becoming more and more rare..
 

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Alot of Rural towns in China are becoming cities. Nowadays in China a city needs at least 5000 citizen. Rural zones are becoming more and more rare..
China is 80% Rural. it and India are special cases due to massive popul.

China at least has very stright internal migration from Rural to City.

I think this is a good policy IMO
 

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The firm I work for is currently undertaking a project on land use planning and infrastructure finance (particularly relating to land value capture), in Sub Saharan Africa (SSA) for a large, international development agency.
We have done the initial literature reviews, and have struggled to gather information on how private sector developments (malls, new 'smart' cities, commercial and residential developments etc.) in SSA cities are getting access to the services which they require (water, sanitation, waste removal and electricity mainly).
Are the developers doing the work themselves, without consulting the city master plans (if they exist)? Are they connecting to an existing grid (if it exists)? Or are they paying a form of impact fee to the local government, who in turn will provide the necessary infrastructure using this (and other) resources?
If anyone is able to help me with anecdotal evidence, or preferably references to literature written about the topic, it would be greatly appreciated.
I also think it is important beyond the scope of the particular project that has been undertaken, as private developers who are considering moving into SSA countries must understand the difficulties of working in an environment without services provided by the local authority.
Kampala Capital City Authority Directorate of Physical planning

Master Plan
 

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China is 80% Rural. it and India are special cases due to massive popul.

China at least has very stright internal migration from Rural to City.

I think this is a good policy IMO
But this is primarily due to the extremely large population of that country. What the PRC authorities have been trying to do is manage a critical situation.

Africans have a different problem altogether. African countries are sparsely populated compared to Europe. But, the rural citizens tend not to have land tenure. This complicates things a lot when you need rural development. Solve the issue of land tenure and ownership, then you have a big step forward.
 

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China is 80% Rural. it and India are special cases due to massive popul.

China at least has very stright internal migration from Rural to City.

I think this is a good policy IMO
But they are becoming more and more urbanized. It's like a mixture of urban-rural towns. The Hukou system is still has its negative effects on the rural zones.
 

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But this is primarily due to the extremely large population of that country. What the PRC authorities have been trying to do is manage a critical situation.

Africans have a different problem altogether. African countries are sparsely populated compared to Europe. But, the rural citizens tend not to have land tenure. This complicates things a lot when you need rural development. Solve the issue of land tenure and ownership, then you have a big step forward.
True,

Incompetence in Africa is to blame.
 

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But they are becoming more and more urbanized. It's like a mixture of urban-rural towns. The Hukou system is still has its negative effects on the rural zones.
Yes, its heading towards that...the communists are modernizing the Rural areas in order to make it more fortable and prevent people from mass migrating to the cities which would be a desaster for the ccities.


In DRC we had a problem from 1991 to now is that the economy got bankrupt, infrastructures decayed, it was worst due to wars and ever since there has been a massive rural to urban migration that wusdripled the cities populations and new towns were or are being born as result. to my satisfaction tho.
Its hard to modernize a rural aarea in a large countries like DRC, so the more urban , the better.
 

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Yes, its heading towards that...the communists are modernizing the Rural areas in order to make it more fortable and prevent people from mass migrating to the cities which would be a desaster for the ccities.


In DRC we had a problem from 1991 to now is that the economy got bankrupt, infrastructures decayed, it was worst due to wars and ever since there has been a massive rural to urban migration that wusdripled the cities populations and new towns were or are being born as result. to my satisfaction tho.
Its hard to modernize a rural aarea in a large countries like DRC, so the more urban , the better.
I think China's main factor is the population increase. I'm not sure if Congo is in dire need to transform rural areas into urban zones. One thing is sure, Africa should rely on agriculture and invest in logistics when it comes to agriculture. Egypt is actually doing that.
 

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I think China's main factor is the population increase. I'm not sure if Congo is in dire need to transform rural areas into urban zones. One thing is sure, Africa should rely on agriculture and invest in logistics when it comes to agriculture. Egypt is actually doing that.
60% of Congolese leave in Rural area and agriculture is the industry. therefore its vbery important tto modernize the agriculture which also means the rural area as a whole would be going through modernization (electricity, health, education adequate housing etc...).

Its very important to make the Rural very productive as there is no point having people move yo the cities when there are no jobs for them.
 

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60% of Congolese leave in Rural area and agriculture is the industry. therefore its vbery important tto modernize the agriculture which also means the rural area as a whole would be going through modernization (electricity, health, education adequate housing etc...).

Its very important to make the Rural very productive as there is no point having people move yo the cities when there are no jobs for them.
That's a big problem for Congo you know. Nowadays it's not good for the economy to have at least 60% of congolese living in Rural areas exceptionally that most countries right now don't exceed 40%. With the modern technology and big industries there is no doubt any country can easily reduce the proportion of people in rural areas but the problem with Congo is the fact that you need urbanize and create more employment in the urban areas to create a rural exodus. Don't you think that having 60% of Congolese living in rural areas is a sign of high poverty unless your country is a big agriculture exporter? What Congo needs to do is create employment and develop the current urban areas to attract more rural people. It's impossible to have a economy when most of the 60% of the rural habitants are not working.

Just look at China, in the 50's till the end of the 70's, they had a economy based on heavy industry (agriculture, mining,etc.) which kinda didn't help the country. By the 80's, Xioping started what is known as the light industry Revolution (technology, banking and urban reforms). If Congo wants to move forward, they need to urbanize the economy!
 

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That's a big problem for Congo you know. Nowadays it's not good for the economy to have at least 60% of congolese living in Rural areas exceptionally that most countries right now don't exceed 40%. With the modern technology and big industries there is no doubt any country can easily reduce the proportion of people in rural areas but the problem with Congo is the fact that you need urbanize and create more employment in the urban areas to create a rural exodus. Don't you think that having 60% of Congolese living in rural areas is a sign of high poverty unless your country is a big agriculture exporter? What Congo needs to do is create employment and develop the current urban areas to attract more rural people. It's impossible to have a economy when most of the 60% of the rural habitants are not working.

Just look at China, in the 50's till the end of the 70's, they had a economy based on heavy industry (agriculture, mining,etc.) which kinda didn't help the country. By the 80's, Xioping started what is known as the light industry Revolution (technology, banking and urban reforms). If Congo wants to move forward, they need to urbanize the economy!
DRC used to be big agrocultural producer and Congo is poorer today than in 1993 due to political and security instalibility. and in 1993, the country was 75% Rural.

The problem is not being Riral, the problem is having a rural that is no longer productive.

So, modernizing the rural means providing social services, modern public infrastructures and mechanizing agriculture. all you need to small towns and cities as way to organize the rural area.

You cannot bring so many people in cities when there are no jobs for them, that will just create so much crime, more povertty , slums,


Creating Jobs is the duty of every government and its not easy for any country in the world. its a long, very long process that needs competence and cision.


Despute China's super work of the last 50 years, 75% of Chinese still use firewood for cooking. and that is a hige number for being Riral. despite being a world factory.

China is an exception.
Congo needs to invest in heavy industries/manufacturing, obviously, ita the inly way that exists an example by the G8 and G29
 

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DRC used to be big agrocultural producer and Congo is poorer today than in 1993 due to political and security instalibility. and in 1993, the country was 75% Rural.

The problem is not being Riral, the problem is having a rural that is no longer productive.

So, modernizing the rural means providing social services, modern public infrastructures and mechanizing agriculture. all you need to small towns and cities as way to organize the rural area.

You cannot bring so many people in cities when there are no jobs for them, that will just create so much crime, more povertty , slums,


Creating Jobs is the duty of every government and its not easy for any country in the world. its a long, very long process that needs competence and cision.


Despute China's super work of the last 50 years, 75% of Chinese still use firewood for cooking. and that is a hige number for being Riral. despite being a world factory.

China is an exception.
Congo needs to invest in heavy industries/manufacturing, obviously, ita the inly way that exists an example by the G8 and G29
I'm no fan of rural based economies. China most populous area is the Shenzhen zone till Hong Kong. Since the last decades, China has taken the path of urbanization. China is no longer a rural based economy:



There is also a study proving that China townsman are gaining more than those living in the rural towns:


Congo needs to urbanize its economy and quit thinking about developing a rural economy when the country can rely on small industries and produce the same amount of goods. Congo by choosing to ruralize its economy, it loses a whole potential in term of light industry (technology, banking and knowledge specialization). Nowadays, the most lucrative industry are not in the rural zones but most likely in the urban areas as they produce international reconnaissance and a estate market opportunity. None is interested in investing in a rural based economy.

Why do you think China's poverty are in the rural areas? They are trying to attract lucrative industries in the cities while the heavy industries in the domain of agriculture, mining,etc. are forced to go in the rural towns. They create more damage than rentability those located in the rural zone.

In China if it wasn't about the Hukou system, the rural proportion would have decreased faster.

The heavy industrialization is nowadays outdated. Congo needs to rely on the technology market and estate market. Manufacturing is good for countries like Egypt that has the Canal of Suez.
 

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60% of Congolese leave in Rural area and agriculture is the industry. therefore its vbery important tto modernize the agriculture which also means the rural area as a whole would be going through modernization (electricity, health, education adequate housing etc...).

Its very important to make the Rural very productive as there is no point having people move yo the cities when there are no jobs for them.
True. China had build huge economic zones at their East Coast that needed workers. That caused many people to move..That boosted the development of the cities.

African cities do not have huge economic zones. There are no jobs for people who move to the cities. They will only make things worser. The cities can not profide them with basic things like housing, education.

People on the rural need help like land reforms, fertilizers, training, better seeds etc
Try to modernize the agriculture and develop agro- industries..
 

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I'm no fan of rural based economies. China most populous area is the Shenzhen zone till Hong Kong. Since the last decades, China has taken the path of urbanization. China is no longer a rural based economy:

There is also a study proving that China townsman are gaining more than those living in the rural towns:

Congo needs to urbanize its economy and quit thinking about developing a rural economy when the country can rely on small industries and produce the same amount of goods. Congo by choosing to ruralize its economy, it loses a whole potential in term of light industry (technology, banking and knowledge specialization). Nowadays, the most lucrative industry are not in the rural zones but most likely in the urban areas as they produce international reconnaissance and a estate market opportunity. None is interested in investing in a rural based economy.

Why do you think China's poverty are in the rural areas? They are trying to attract lucrative industries in the cities while the heavy industries in the domain of agriculture, mining,etc. are forced to go in the rural towns. They create more damage than rentability those located in the rural zone.

In China if it wasn't about the Hukou system, the rural proportion would have decreased faster.

The heavy industrialization is nowadays outdated. Congo needs to rely on the technology market and estate market. Manufacturing is good for countries like Egypt that has the Canal of Suez.
Rural = Agriculture and with no agriculture, you cannot build an economy ir be a serious country.

You need to modernize your agriculture.

Promote and heavily invest in manufacturing business. this is where real money resides.

India is the ponly country that will need to follow China because of theiir massive population sizes.

Congo needs to create 5 economic Zones to well organize it internal market...right now there are 3 economic regions which need to be connected by Rail , Roads and energy development and this where the populations have been increasing in the cities.

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True. China had build huge economic zones at their East Coast that needed workers. That caused many people to move..That boosted the development of the cities.

African cities do not have huge economic zones. There are no jobs for people who move to the cities. They will only make things worser. The cities can not profide them with basic things like housing, education.

People on the rural need help like land reforms, fertilizers, training, better seeds etc
Try to modernize the agriculture and develop agro- industries..

Yes speciall Economic Zones are necessary i n the planning and organizing. but in case of Congo, its the Infrastructures and Energy that need to be done.
The country already has econo,ic Regions.
 
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