wowsim said:
are you serious?? of course more lanes means better transport! (road anyway) as long as there are suitably multi-laned roads at the ends of freeways and tollways! there is such a thing as building adequate roads AND adequate PT. i'm sorry but under NO stretch of the imagination are the two laned tollways in Sydney remotely adequate nor would they be if supported by better PT. maybe they would be if Sydney had a population of 2million rather than over 4!
Go check out LA, and then tell me that more lanes means better transport (road anyway)- they have more lanes than any place in the world and they have suitably multi-laned roads the ends of freeways and tollways.
As for the 2 lane way (im guessing you mean the M2), it would be STUPID (im serious). You can make it 4 lanes, but they would have to merge into 2 lanes at Lane Cove- i should know im on the bus everyday. Thats the prob, if there was another alternative like a train station, i would say as much as 50% of the traffic would be cut. Therefore it would be adequate. The prob isn't the 2 lanes its the fact that there is ONLY 2 lanes (and one bus lane) and no other option.
You should note in Europe where most of the city lanes are barley 2 lanes, with cities the size of 11 mil (Paris that i have been to and have family there) which has the great metro and RER systems and the city is fine. Its the typical (and flawed view) that more lanes built means better transport. You should know that when most of the freeways in Syd were built they were considered huge. Ok so increase all roads, add 2 lanes to each, what next in 20 yrs, add more?? Thats the flawed view and LA is now suffering, whilst cities with the same pop (NYC) is still functional and thriving with their subway system.
Sydney doesn't need more roads, it needs an adequate train system. All cities in Oz are guilty of being too car centric, its only inevitable that the probs will be faced by all unless train systems are drastically improved.
Again, sirhc8 you are spot on! :applause:
Ok well i better not hijack this thread, i've stated what i wanted to say. Like i said Melboune has the best transport followed by Perth.