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Just for fun only. Which of the following cities would deserve an NFL or MLB expansion franchise? This doesn't even have to be limited to the cities I list obviously. If you have a different idea, please share it.

1. Portland
2. Las Vegas
3. Albuquerque
4. Tucson
5. Salt Lake City
6. Spokane
7. Fresno

These cities are not listed in any type of order. They are the standout largest metro's in this region without neither. I'm playing no favorites.
 

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Just for fun only. Which of the following cities would deserve an NFL or MLB expansion franchise? This doesn't even have to be limited to the cities I list obviously. If you have a different idea, please share it.

1. Portland
2. Las Vegas
3. Albuquerque
4. Tucson
5. Salt Lake City
6. Spokane
7. Fresno

These cities are not listed in any type of order. They are the standout largest metro's in this region without neither. I'm playing no favorites.
This thread is all in fun.However if his was topic being debated on ESPN,I would answer something like this..

Portland would the best choice.However,the league doesn't need to expand any further.It will only water down the talent pool and extend the season.

If I'm not mistaken,due to the gaming industry,professional sports teams are not allowed in Nevada.

N.Mexico,Arizona and Utah combined don't have the population base.The SW already has an "alledged" NFL team called the Cardinals.

Spokane is too small and remote.

California can barely support three teams.LA sure as hell doesn't deserve another NFL franchise.
 

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Los Angeles would do fine with an NFL franchise. However, the NFL has gotten along fine without one.

Being from Salt Lake City, I don't think we could support either. Our local AAA baseball team (the Bees) enjoys immense popularity, and there's not much interest in getting an MLB franchise. Also, since the MLB is such a big-revenue league, we'd have a hard time drawing an MLB franchise here even if there was significant support for it. We just don't have the population base for it.

With the NFL, all of the issues above apply, and worse. Almost all NFL games are held on Sunday. I'd say a good 25-30% of the population in the city (certainly higher for the whole state) are devout Mormons, and refuse to do any activities on Sundays. We'd have enough trouble drawing 80,000 fans to an NFL stadium on Saturdays, let alone Sundays. Even worse, a lot of the fanatical sports fans here are Mormons. It seems almost ingrained in the culture here.

Also, while I could see where we could build an MLB stadium (the Utah State Fairpark is doable, but not necessarily logical), I have absolutely no idea where we could realistically build an NFL stadium.

The NHL, however, is a different issue. I could see Salt Lake City with an NHL franchise. The NBA is bigger than the NHL, and the Utah Jazz are one of the most financially successful franchises in the NBA.

Portland definitely seems like the only real logical choice out of any of these.

Tucson could probably support them, if there wasn't already one of each of these in Phoenix.

Professional sports teams aren't allowed in Las Vegas, due to the gambling culture. It could easily support either of them though.
 

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Los Angeles would do fine with an NFL franchise. However, the NFL has gotten along fine without one.

Being from Salt Lake City, I don't think we could support either. Our local AAA baseball team (the Bees) enjoys immense popularity, and there's not much interest in getting an MLB franchise. Also, since the MLB is such a big-revenue league, we'd have a hard time drawing an MLB franchise here even if there was significant support for it. We just don't have the population base for it.

With the NFL, all of the issues above apply, and worse. Almost all NFL games are held on Sunday. I'd say a good 25-30% of the population in the city (certainly higher for the whole state) are devout Mormons, and refuse to do any activities on Sundays. We'd have enough trouble drawing 80,000 fans to an NFL stadium on Saturdays, let alone Sundays. Even worse, a lot of the fanatical sports fans here are Mormons. It seems almost ingrained in the culture here.

Also, while I could see where we could build an MLB stadium (the Utah State Fairpark is doable, but not necessarily logical), I have absolutely no idea where we could realistically build an NFL stadium.

The NHL, however, is a different issue. I could see Salt Lake City with an NHL franchise. The NBA is bigger than the NHL, and the Utah Jazz are one of the most financially successful franchises in the NBA.

Portland definitely seems like the only real logical choice out of any of these.

Tucson could probably support them, if there wasn't already one of each of these in Phoenix.

Professional sports teams aren't allowed in Las Vegas, due to the gambling culture. It could easily support either of them though.
I think Vegas will one day have a pro sports franchise there.
 

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No doubt portland. It should go like this: Put nfl in beaverton and mlb in portland. In beaverton put it near the edge along the border of hilsboro, that area has a lot of nfl fans. Portland of course for mlb http://www.oregonstadiumcampaign.com/:banana: :banana:
I hope Portland gets the Timbers up to MLS before any of that. They have some great fans.
Honolulu.
NFL, perhaps. Anything else, no. The schedule would be too brutal.
 

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I would say Honolulu too but it would be very costly for the teams. Traveling back and forth from Oceania to North America, but maybe it can work out well.
 

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This is the NFL, though. Money grows on trees for them.
They would undoubtedly have to tear down that horrible stadium they call the Hula Bowl. I was just there last summer. It's rundown looking park. They would have to build something much more modern of course. They would probably have to build it in the same area as well. I don't think there's much room in the city or near Waikiki. But I think the local population would support an NFL team.
 

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Portland is #1 on my list to get a MLB team. An NFL team in Portland would be nice too. I feel that Buffalo could use a MLB team as well. It could boost that city's growing/improving downtown area.
 

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for which sport? i think putting a franchise of ANY kind in vegas is a mistake.
I didn't say it wouldn't be a mistake. But I think the NBA really wants to be in Vegas. Gambling and sports seem to go hand in hand anyway. We would be naive to think it didn't. I was watching the Braves-Marlins game on TBS last night and they showed the outfield wall of Dolphins Stadium and it was covered with casino adds.
 

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A little bit of both, but the last thing the NHL needs is to expand or relocate a team...they need to start "cutting the fat"
The NHL is actually considering expansion right now. That was in the Sporting News a few weeks back.
 
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