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Which countries will emerge as the "African Lion" Economies

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Now that African economies are growing faster then ever:banana: . Which countries in Africa do you think will emerge as the "African Lion":cheers: economies and industrialize first. I think that South Africa, Kenya, Senegal and if they could get things together Nigeria.
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No doubt, heck even though they have Africa's highest HDI, it's still inferior to Mexico for example. They've slowly opened up a tourist industry but their not following the Egyptian, Tunisian or Moroccan example of allowing masses of people to come in. Instead appealing to the very wealthy demographic. Which is a shame considering the large amounts of Greek and Roman ruins.
Kadhaffi is a big idiot. Libya has so much Roman, Greece and Berber monuments, they have Roman cities but no tourists because there is no accomodation and tourists still need visa.

Libya can become richer then UAE they have so much oil, gaz, fish, tourisme etc but they have a bad leader.
No doubt, heck even though they have Africa's highest HDI, it's still inferior to Mexico for example. They've slowly opened up a tourist industry but their not following the Egyptian, Tunisian or Moroccan example of allowing masses of people to come in. Instead appealing to the very wealthy demographic. Which is a shame considering the large amounts of Greek and Roman ruins.

Tourists still need visa to go to Libya and their are not much hotels, resorts etc in Libya and the infrastructure is very bad.

For example Libya has no railroad, the ports are old and in bad shape that is why a lot of sheeps go to Tunisia ports and then export the products to Libya..
Which countries will emerge as the "African Lion" Economies


1.South Africa
2.Egypt
3.Morocco
4.Tunisa

a oil countrie can not be the "African Lion"
libya, u know i always wonder why the hell that country is so run down yet they have money. i think if kenya or sengal or ghana or namibia or zambia had the kind of money libya has, those countries would be far better than where they are.
a oil countrie can not be the "African Lion"
Why not? Nigeria, Algeria and Angola are oil countries and are among the largest in Africa.
I know alot of Egyptians and South Asians who work in Libya, lured by high salary.

There are too many contradctions about Libya, if you check various sites you will find some stating tht Libya is rich in oil but infrastructure-wise its very poor, with high level of poverty among local Libyans; while many others state that Libyans enjoy high standard of living and foreign visitors will be "extremely suprised" with the luxury life enjoyed by most Libyans.

:dunno:
Why not? Nigeria, Algeria and Angola are oil countries and are among the largest in Africa.
because their economies are dependent on oil or Gaz

They can not resist to the global crisis
I would agree with that ^^

Not because I hate those oil countries (I have spent quite abit of time in Nigeria) but I think that an "African Lion" economy suggests tat like the Asion Tiger economies, a multi-faceted, diversified economy that because of stable management and governmen is able to raise the standard of living for the majority of people.

Bless Nigeria for all the advacement and progres it has made and is making, it's a beautiful country close to my heart, but as it sits right now, the oil money is building lots of new pretty buildings but is having a rough time raising the standard of living for its 100 plus million people. What a huge job! I genuinely wish the best.

Excluding South Africa (in a different league economically) and oil countries....

1) Botswana
2) Namibia
3) Senegal
4) Ghana
5) Kenya
Not because I hate those oil countries (I have spent quite abit of time in Nigeria) but I think that an "African Lion" economy suggests tat like the Asion Tiger economies, a multi-faceted, diversified economy that because of stable management and governmen is able to raise the standard of living for the majority of people.
Then there are very few "African Lion" countries in Africa...
because their economies are dependent on oil or Gaz

They can not resist to the global crisis
Most African countries are dependent on one thing...so what is the difference?
FTSE classification, as of September 2008 emerging markets list:


Advanced Emerging: Brazil, Hungary, Mexico, Poland, South Africa, Taiwan


Secondary Emerging: Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, Czech Republic, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Morocco, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Russia, Thailand, Turkey.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_market
1.South Africa
2.Egypt
3.Morocco
4.Nigeria


Nigeria is on my list because the non-oil sectors are growing fast like banking, telecom, agriculture, mining etc. They are not focussing only on oil anymore..
From the last World Economic Forum 2008, the emerging market nations that were of interest from Africa were Egypt and Nigeria (If we are to leave out South African which has already emerged). The basic things they used to measure these economies were mainly growth, returns, progress in trade volume and prices, foreign returns, stable government and infrastructure(which were the major hurdles for Nigeria to fair behind the others as an emerging economy),etc factors.If we are going to go by emerging economy factors my list would look like this:

1. Nigeria (Largely due to the regional market strategy and consumer population)
2. Egypt

These other nations can follow in this order:

3. Morocco
4. Algeria(If only it diversified its economy)
5. Angola
6. Kenya
From the last World Economic Forum 2008, the emerging market nations that were of interest from Africa were Egypt and Nigeria (If we are to leave out South African which has already emerged). The basic things they used to measure these economies were mainly growth, returns, progress in trade volume and prices, foreign returns, stable government and infrastructure(which were the major hurdles for Nigeria to fair behind the others as an emerging economy),etc factors.If we are going to go by emerging economy factors my list would look like this:

1. Nigeria (Largely due to the regional market strategy and consumer population)
2. Egypt
I do not think that Nigeria is a country emerging

1.Nigeria is not a stable country

2. 2/3 of the population live below the poverty line

3.with 140 inhabitants Nigeria has important 20,000 vehicles per year Morocco and Algeria with 60 million inhabitants import 25 times more

we can not imagine this country without oil
From the last World Economic Forum 2008, the emerging market nations that were of interest from Africa were Egypt and Nigeria (If we are to leave out South African which has already emerged). The basic things they used to measure these economies were mainly growth, returns, progress in trade volume and prices, foreign returns, stable government and infrastructure(which were the major hurdles for Nigeria to fair behind the others as an emerging economy),etc factors.If we are going to go by emerging economy factors my list would look like this:

1. Nigeria (Largely due to the regional market strategy and consumer population)
2. Egypt

These other nations can follow in this order:

3. Morocco
4. Algeria(If only it diversified its economy)
5. Angola
6. Kenya
Well to be perfectly fair, Nigeria is just as dependent (if not more) on oil than Algeria. Oil accounts for 40% of Nigeria's GDP compared to Algeria's 30%. However it is true that proportionally Algeria's export earnings are more oil derived than Nigeria.
I do not think that Nigeria is a country emerging

1.Nigeria is not a stable country

2. 2/3 of the population live below the poverty line

3.with 140 inhabitants Nigeria has important 20,000 vehicles per year Morocco and Algeria with 60 million inhabitants import 25 times more

we can not imagine this country without oil
yes we can. nigeria without oil was better and would be better. anyway, nigeria has such a large population that it does not expot as much because it consumes a lot, so it can be deceptive

where did you get your stats that 20,000 cars are exporter into nigeria yearly and 500,000 are imported into algeria and morocco
I do not think that Nigeria is a country emerging

1.Nigeria is not a stable country

2. 2/3 of the population live below the poverty line

3.with 140 inhabitants Nigeria has important 20,000 vehicles per year Morocco and Algeria with 60 million inhabitants import 25 times more

we can not imagine this country without oil


Brasil, India etc have also very high poverty but still they are seen as emerging countries. High poverty is not an issue if a country is seen as an emerging market or not.


Nigeria is seen as a emerging market because all their non-oil sectors like banking, telecom, mining, stock exchange, etc are booming.
They are investing a lot to divers their economy.
Well to be perfectly fair, Nigeria is just as dependent (if not more) on oil than Algeria. Oil accounts for 40% of Nigeria's GDP compared to Algeria's 30%. However it is true that proportionally Algeria's export earnings are more oil derived than Nigeria.
Alex, the banking sector in Nigeria is far more ahead that those in Algeria and the Nigeria banks are booming. They buy a lot of banks in Africa and invest in other banks.
Also the telecom, stock exchange of Nigeria are booming. And also the mining, agriculture etc..
Nigeria has a very open economy and their FDI is growing..
Algeria has the potential to become a emerging market, but the need to open their economy, modernise their banks, stock exchange and other companies..










Nigeria: banks at the top

Date: 16.10.2008 The largest financial institutions in West-Afrika are in Nigeria. In the top 20-list 19 banks were Nigerian banks . These banks have made considerable more profit, with as head Intercontinental Bank' and ' First bank or Nigeria'. The position of banks are development and rising, companies in Nigeria improve more then ever. There is now a sufficient capital for investments of companies in Nigeria.

The financial service is the top of the Nigerian macro-economy at this moment. The increase was used by the government that wants to make Nigeria the financial `hub' of Africa, the current increase can be now attributed entirely to private companies. The market atracttes a lot of investors. With a population of 140 millions and a strongly rising middle class is the financial sector becoming enormous.


Source: Dutch ministery of economic business


http://www.evd.nl/zoeken/showbouwsteen.asp?bstnum=217864
Nigeria isn't an emerging market yet...but it will be one soon. Though its banks may be large, compare them to South Africa's banks for example and they don't look so large. So whilst they may be big, they aren't big enough yet. The keyword being yet.
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