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Sorry if this thread has been done, but I usually don't post in this area.

Obviously everybody who posts in this area likes commieblocks (or hates), but why exactly do you love em? The looks, or conveniance of em?

For me, living in Canada, I lived in one of the few 'commieblock' projects here. They weren't exactly commieblocks, but rather housing projects, basically goverment funded low-income apartment buildings in certian areas of the city. Moving out of those at a young age and into the suburbs into a house in the ghetto, I mised them, and sort of just like them for whatever reason.

yehhhhhh :D
 

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I was grown up in countryside Switzerland but going to the cities I was always impressed and fascinated by the commieblocks. Also living in the country of Le Corbusier, you just HAVE to love them :lol:

But I think the final kick gave me the beautiful distruction scene of the Chicago commies in Koyaanisqatsi with Phil Glass' perfect score when I saw it first on a sunday morning in the early 80s ;)
 

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Actually Kuesel mentioned something that goes for me, too --- growing up in a countryside. At least in Estonia even country-side villages have commieblocks! I know villages in Southern Estonia, two of them have exactly one 2-storey 2-entranced white bricked commieblock. And another village which has 2 such. Perhaps I should make pictures of them: tiny (totally unimpressive) commieblocks in the middle of other usual buildings or in the middle of trees.

Strange that I can't remember _when_ I started loving commieblocks. It has been a slow progress, I think.
 

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In my village there were also some commieblocks, but kind of 4-5 floors, going to towns and cities here they have 10-30 floors that impressed me really ;)
 

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I don't like any commieblock, but those towerblocks 9 floors and upwards. Lowerones don't impress me that much unless they are not pieces of good architecture. But I know one thing for sure: it is better to look on them than living in one :D:D:D. Living in those blocks is not that good at all, especially hearing almost everything whats going on in neighbouring flats- aaargh I hated that.
 

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living in london, the highrise council estates define an otherwise quite flat skyline in many parts of the city.
 

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I am tired of flat skyline in North American suburbs. Commieblocks are more "ordered" way of housing, which gives a more pleasant environment to live compared with trailers or even most houses, if built and maintained well.

I am especially impressed with some Russian and Dutch commieblock neighbourhoods which have parks amidst them.
 

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I lived in a 10-storey block of flats in the UK for 6 years and did miss it after moving out a lot, often dreaming that the flat was vacant and waiting for me to move in again. But then I had decorated it myself and there was no sharing of kitchen or bathroom.

Everything seemed very dark and dingy whenever I visited the Midlands afterwards and I suspect that primairly what I missed was the quality of the light there in the flat and the clean and spacious lines of it. The location was also incredibly convenient, it was easy to travel out of it to London or Birmingham (this was Coventry).

I live in a similar block of flats in Budapest now and again, the deciding factor seemed to be the lightness and spaciousness of the flats, though once again I am not especially high up. I do miss the 'galley' kitchen of my old flat and the long hall for storing pictures, though otherwise this flat is a lot more compact.
 

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Over the past six months, I've been watching a lot of old (70's and 80's) movies on dvd, and was just really taken by the look of them. In Australia, we have very few similar buildings, so it's all new to me.

I was initially fascinated cos i thought they were all scummy, trouble magnet ghettos, but after reading hundreds of posts i now realise that's not the case at all, and i'm still a bit obsessed! They are so striking to look at.:)
 

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i love them, because we have no highrises here and so they´re the only tall buildings here and btw. i´m impressed by them
 

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i don´t have a sexual fixation with commieblocks as some users on this forum do :D but i like them mainly because of their simplicity, order,efficiency and functionality wich are some of the architectural characteristics i value the most
 

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Suburban sprawl means you need to use the car to get anywhere. The low population density over a large area also means public transport is impossible. It also doesn't make much sense to place shops, library, bathouse, pubs, cinemas etc. in the area. Instead you're meant to take the car to the actual city, or an edge city/shopping centre to do your shopping and get your entertainment. Without such facilities, the suburbs are just an endless sea of identical houses.

"Commieblock" neighbourhoods can contain a lot more in terms of service, shops etc. because the concentration of people is much greater over a smaller area of land. You've got everything you need on a daily basis within walking distance. Should you need to get to the city, the neighbourhoods are almost always serviced by public transport (at the very least buses, and often trams, trains or subway) - it's the blood vessel of the commieblock suburb. Like a horizontal version of the elevators in the buildings.

They aren't perfect - the scale and monotony can be a bit overwhelming for some people. Sometimes, the planners of the neighbourhoods were too rigid in their planning, reducing the people that were to live there to patterns of behaviour, or forgetting them completely. Some areas don't have the level of service people need. If you have a genuine interest in gardening, you'll miss having your own lawn. I think it's convenient - I have better things to do than to repair my house, mow the lawn, weed control etc. An apartment takes care of itself, all you have to do is clean up and wash the dishes every now and then. If you work 8-17, this means you can spend your spare time doing things you enjoy instead.
 

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It is totally right what you have said JimmiG. It is an state of modern urban living and seems just perfect for the socialistic idea which inventually Marx had. So I sometimes surprised that even in western Europe you can find something like "mikro rajons" or "sidlisko", whatever term you prefer to use.

But especially here in Germany more and more ppl tend to built up a house. They want something induvidualistic, with THEIR own garden etc. everything has to be their own property. Nobody wants to live in a commieblock anymore. They knock down them everywehre they can, so living in a commieblock makes only sense at least ppl who live their are really confident about living in a sidlisko. It is the best oppurtunity to have a really good neighborhood because nobody will differ from another, all have the same flat with the exact same properties and then all the advantages you have mentioned jimmig.

For me commieblocks are a kind of political statement some rudiments from the past and I wonder every time when I go to Czech Rep., Slovakia or Poland still how many ppl live in those social housing projects. Maybe they have a different attitude concerning materialistic properties and are not so fixed like the germans or they also would like to built their own house but dont have enough money.

Commieblocks will never be built again in Germany in the near future. It is just a question of the political system. Commieblocks and their way to live just dont fit in our "induvidualistic" society and we will all end up like the USA with their huge suburbs of terraced houses. It is just ugly!!!! no planning at all! It is just the credo "Survival of the fittest", dumb ass modern society with their bullshit induvdualistic and so-called freedom to choose....they just make you believe that you are able to choose and can reach everything, even your terraced house.....but thats is just a big lie, it will always cost the old batte "rich" vs. "poor".......if you want that, go on and try to be some of the "rich" who will keep supressing the "poor".

thats it, you see what I can interprete in those commieblocks, but I was raised in a socialistic housing project, so I just know how a soceity also can work, and commieblocks are just the perfect condition for this society!

nuff said!
 

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[...]If you have a genuine interest in gardening, you'll miss having your own lawn.[...]
That's not exactly true :) If you live in commieblock on ground floor, often you can have small garden just for yourself.

Here are some samples from Osiedle Zwycięstwa, Poznań, Poland.



 

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That's not exactly true If you live in commieblock on ground floor, often you can have small garden just for yourself.
That looks very nice. I've seen something similar for some ground floors here in Sweden. However for everyone else, who's not on the ground floor, there's just the balcony.. Though you can grow things on it too of course, as you can see in the pictures you posted :) You can also often rent a garden plot though it's usually located some distance from the house.

Suburban sprawl type of districts might look individualistic when you view them one house at a time..but if you see them from some distance or in an aerial photo, all the houses look identical. They look no different than the endless rows of balconies of a big apartment building, it's just the scale and perspective that are different. Maybe some house owners spend all this money and resources on the house thinking they are so unique and idividualistic, when in fact their "unique" house is just one in the endless sea of identical houses all built by the same developer :eek:hno:

I can definitely see why some people would prefer a house with a big garden, backyard, pool etc. Especially if you're bringing up children it's very nice to have. But for alot of people, an apartment is enough. How many live in big houses and don't realize that they are wasting money (and resources) on living space that they don't need? The social problems etc. begin when you more or less "force" people to live in "commieblocks" against their will. People who have chosen to live there are very happy. Big concrete apartment buildings don't turn people into anti social criminals or drug users, society does. Though it's easier for a society to blame the problems on "ugly" buildings than to admit that society has failed to a degree.

In my block, I can easily tell those two categories apart. There's a family who has lived in the same apartment for ten years. They were thinking about buying a house but when it turned out the house had suffered water damage, they backed out of it. Their apartment is extremely well kept and beautiful because they like it, the neighbourhood and the people who live here. Then there's a friend of mine who sais this is the worst neighbourhood he's ever lived in and he can't wait to move away as soon as possible but he doesn't have the means to. His apartment is a mess with the wallpapers peeling from the walls, floors scratched and dirty etc. If you feel you've been forced to live there by society, you don't take care of either your own apartment, the communal spaces or the neighbours and people around you because they have no meaning to you. They are all part of the "prison".

My reason for choosing to live in a "commieblock" isn't really a political statement, though. It's more of a lifestyle statement and a matter of convenience. Like I said, there are other things to spend your time and money on than a house. Even if I had the money for a big house, I'd probably keep my apartment and spend the money on something else like a pilots license or a round the world trip or similar... I'd just lock up my apartment and when I finally came back it would look the same as when I left it - no overgrown garden, peeling paint or massive heating bill waiting for me (just maybe a thin layer of dust...) :)

I should go to bed and sleep now :D
 
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