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Why there are no more Macau People in Macau? Pls Discuss~~

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Hi All, I would like to put up a topic here, pls lets discuss it about it. I have been very concerned lately, Why there are so little Macau people in Macau. Let me put it to this way, I consider true Macau people (local people) as in those who "grew up" or "were born" in Macau. In other words, these people would think Macau as their first hometown, like me, even tho I have migrated to Australia., I still see myself as I Macaese (Either 100% Portuguese, 100% Chinese or Eurasians, as long as they were born or grew up in Macau).

If we look at the scientisfic way, there are only less than 500,000 people in Macau. Okay, and I can dare say that there are only half of this population are true Macaese people. so, for example, there is only 250,000 people who could be born in Macau or grew up in Macau. and look!! there are too many people comming from China these days, or even Philipines. AT the same time, there could be another 400,000 to 500,000 tourists staying in Macau (in or out) every day.

Therefore, Macau people(100% local) have become a minority population in Macau. I just found this is very annoying . very very annoying !!!! Let me tell you guys a few experience I had. some of my friends from Australia andHK went to Macau a while ago. Most new immigrants in Macau are from Mainland China (everybody knows!!!).

First of all, they dun speak porperly ( i would like to say, the common speakin language in Macau is still Cantonese). I took them to a few restaurants. all those staff there were speakin like..hell!! they didnt understand what we said. and I didnt even have a freaking clue about what they said!!! thats unacceptable, thats the place I was born n grew up, why suddenly I have become someone who has to get used to live in this place again???

Second of all, my aussie frds asked me why Macau people talk funny and they like jaywalking (they dun have the same feeling about HK)..okay..u know what. I found its very frustrating and embarassing. I just told them, most people they met on the way in Macau are not really real Macaese,HK and Macau people should speak the Cantonese with the same accent. my frd even said the Cantonese Macau people speaking is like "Vietmanese",,I was like Hell NO! but anyhow this did give my friends the image what people are like!!

Ok, let me conclude a bit here, I have discussed this topic with a few friends already, we all can say, if u pick maybe 10 people in Macau, there could 5 or 6 of them are from China or Philipines. so only 4 out of 10 could be real Macaese. I jus feel its very SAD because the culture somehow got affected. and the quality that people have is actually getting worse. okay..If ur from London, you would be proud ur from there, if ur from NY, u might think the same, Im sure people from Macau would be proud they are from Macau because each one of them consider themselves as part of the population, what they say, or do, or behave does represent what the people are like in that city. However, if the immigrants behave badly in public, that does also make the other people think Macau people would behave badly in Public because they have become part of the society binding by the laws even though they dont have the same proudness as we do. The foreigners cannot tell who are real Macaese or who are not. so people, lets behave! I just feel very embarassed when the tourists/immigrants spit, sqaut, dress up imporperly n so forth in public.

What Im saying here is not against the immigrants, I am just sharing my point of view here, if this keeps on goin. what is gonna be like 20 yrs later?? we will lost our unique culture for sure. I just personally don really like no matter where I go in Macau. all these staff/people I met on the way cannot speak cantonese properly or I can no way understand what they are sayin.

Macau has a very little population, its good to expand its population, we need people for other industries. thats 100% true, but we should let more people who have high qualification come to Macau instead of letting those who have no eduation, but at the age of sure u've got what i mean.

I would say the economy in Macau is going forward. Meanwhile, the culture and quality that people have are going backward tho. What is the so-called 50 yr unchange, we will enjoy our high autonomy and so on. Are these promising? HELL NO!

Somehow I reckon the gov should let more Portuguese people come to Macau, they should set up a migration compaign in Portugal. haha.. and this could be the only way to suppress the eurasian culture in Macau(this is just a imagination)..
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i didnt know that u have migrated to australia before :D

yea, i agree that there are a lot of people coming from china in recent years, but our economy are relying on these people, they spend their money in casinos, or shopping in macau and this brings up incomes for people in macau. majority of the tourists are coming from mainland china, wat happen to macau if we dont have these tourists ?? we dont have much resources or fields to develop since macau is too small in terms of size and population, so its very important for macau to grow as a tourism destination, our population is only roughly around 500 thousand, but the number of tourists arrive in macau are around 20 millions, we should be proud of this !! :)

majority of the filipinos are working as maids in macau, this also brings benefits on both macaese and filipinos, the filipinos can bring the money back to their country and our people can also benefits as well. there are also a lot of filippinos in macau before, their conditions are better than if they work in malaysia or singapore.

u say people in macau talks funny, yea, i agree with that, but not everyone, coz people study in macau they dont have much opportunities to speak up in the class, and the size of the class in macau is very big and this is why not much less interaction between the teachers and students, the teacher is always the one who dominate the class, unlike australia where u can talk or discuss whenever u like in the class coz the size of the class is small. But one good thing about people study in macau is that they are good at writing in english, but not speaking in english

we want more people to work in other industries, but compare to our neighbourhoods cities, we don have much advantages coz they are so competitive, people in macau are more relaxing than competitive, the problem is that most of the people with high qualifications in macau they tends to move out to work or live in other places, hopefully this situations can be change with the improvement of the economy in macau.

we dont discriminate any other immigrants, doesnt matter if he or she is from mainland china or japan, as long as they dont behave badly, like australia, we also have a lot of people migrate from many dfferent counties, and wat are the results of that? wat are the changes in australia compare to 40 years ago? if your friend think the cantonese in macau speak like vietnamese, then thats only 'wat they think', but our accents are very similar to those in hong knog. even though some people speak in different accents coz their first language is not cantonese or some other reasons, i dont see any problems with that,

i think the government should raise the standards for people who wants to immigrate to macau, otherwise there will be more and more people want to live in macau, i reckon its not a bad thing i guess if they can contributes benefits to macau, especially if they can import some people with high qualifications or people who brings large investments in macau. but i still perfer less people in macau, coz it looks more relaxing :)
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Jus said:
Somehow I reckon the gov should let more Portuguese people come to Macau, they should set up a migration compaign in Portugal. haha.. and this could be the only way to suppress the eurasian culture in Macau(this is just a imagination)..
I can comment on that ;) Macau Government is wide open to Portuguese citizens. I guess the main problem is that Portuguese people living in Portugal don't understand there are place for them in Macau. Everybody in Portugal knows Macau but they don't know exactly Macau reality. There are many teachers, engineers, nurses, doctors without a job in Potugal and they could find a safe work at Macau. I'm pretty sure Macanese people would accept good professionals with open arms. Something have to change and I hope for good news after Dr Edmund Ho next visit to Portugal. Dr Ho is a very smart people and he knows where are the Macau friends in the World.
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Thanks for replying..

Basically, I understand there is no right or wrong on this its pretty much up to anyone of us to agree or disgree...

I also wanted to say, I had no intention to discriminate any immigrants in Macau, no matter where they were from either China or Japan or waterver..but I had to make a point here, its a bit different to the situation in Australia, Australia is always having this image of mutliculturalism..(no matter its true or not)..Most people who came to Australia are either "educated" with professions or they had money to look for a better life here. In other words, thats the so-called investment migration. Think about in this way, if the population in Australia is 100 people, there are 10 immgrants coming to Australia every year. 6 of them are migrating with professions and 3 of them are investment immigrants and the last 2 people could be refugees. I would say there is no harm for here in terms of economies or culture..because its multicultural here anywayz..Indeed.. its very good for the econmoies if more people are investing and the standard of the professions in Australia could be rasied up because most of the population here is having higher qulifications/education. or u can say the average education in the Australian population could be up to highshool or Uni level.

How about Macau, I totally agree with what AsIaBoYz was saying. if there are more people coming to Macau, and more people are investing ,,that would be good for the economies there..thats defintely true..however,, I think u might have twisted my initial meaning. Touristis and Immigrants are different. I believe that the door for tourists and immigrants should be always wide up open. but there should be a certain standard/qualificaiton for the immigrants to pass through this door before they have the legal right to stay in Macau.

We need more people to work in Macaud due to its labour shortage, and the only reason is that fact that most of the people in Macau are workin in the casinos because they can get paid well..really really well I must thats why more immigrants/temporary workers needed to work in other Industries. Otherwsie, I doubt the local people would prefer to work in a restaurant with only 7000 patacas per monthe rather than work in the casions with the salary of up to 15,000 per month..

The situations in Macau and Australia are totally different, when the people with higher professions coming to Australia, the market here in Australia can still absorb these people, In other words, as long as they are good at their fields, they have a bigger chance to find a good job here..On the other hand, we don have other markets to absorb professonals..we simply have casions......thats as long as people are willing to work for position which doesnt not require a high qualification. ..people can still come to Macau.. but kinda drags down standard of the people in Macau.

I totally understand this is just the PROS and CONS...we want to make the economies better there. On the other hand, we have to sacrifice our living conditions..We all understand Macau is just way to small, HK is actually 30 times bigger than Macau, and Shanghai is 6 times bigger than u see what I mean. the only way to boost up the economy there is the gambling industry. Or the better term is (gaming industry).

My point of having this topic is to share what the local people think about Macau now. Other people might think the economies are getting better..people are getting paid more. However, Im sure only the local people (LOCAL as in my previous explantion) would understand how sad and painful that could be if you see ur hometown gettting changed with a lot of people goin there with no education and ruining the quality of life there because these people could take up the jobs where the local people do not want to work for. Meanwhile, there are also a lot tourists in Macau everyday(most of them are from China), if you read the news about Macau every day. you might realise most of the small crimes were comitted by these tourists and the number of them are increasing month by month~

I am not saying we should change this or that, I just wanted to simply point out the FACT wat the local people are facing and the situation is like in Macau. Im sure most of you guys from Macau could recall those days how Taipa was like..riding a bicycle to the Portuguese houses and the Macau wasnt that populated,,it always had the mediterranean style and atmosphere in the old days. and now,,its a simply one of the chinese cities with a lot a lot of casions.......Unlike HK, Hk used to have a bigger population, thus, their own culture could be co-existing with the new change. Macau always had a little population,,with a such a massive amount of tourists..we have become the minority..~

With the talking funny bit, haha,,I just wanted to say,,I personally dun like most of the time people dont understand what I said, or vice versa because this is my hometown..its just weird for a local who needs to adapt the life there...well.. like here..Immigrants here in Australia are trying to adapt the life in Australia, not the other way around..see my point..cheers..~
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What is your nationality Jus?
by race or by nationality? Im pure chinese..but born in Ihave the Port citizenship..n live in Australia 've the picture?
Jus said:
I also wanted to say, I had no intention to discriminate any immigrants in Macau, no matter where they were from either China or Japan or waterver..but I had to make a point here, its a bit different to the situation in Australia, Australia is always having this image of mutliculturalism..(no matter its true or not)
Sorry to butt in, but didn't Australia enforce its White Australia policy till the 60s? Perhaps Macau (and to a certain extent, Hong Kong) is experiencing a similiar transition right now?
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about 50% of population werent born in macao in the last decade and the figure should be bigger now. i dun see y ppl see this as an issue as long as everybody adapts the lifestyle and identity of macao (sorry u guys wrote 2 much stuffs up there didnt read the whole thing)
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