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as we know, shanghai was the top asia leading city on 1920-30s,tokyo was second at that time...

afterWWII and 1949,communist party rule china, and economic develop stop from1949-1990....

since china open his market again in recent year,shanghai once again become the most important city in china,and it continous a fucking amazing speed of building the new shanghai,and government wants it take back what he lost in this 50years,.....to surpass tokyo,dominate asia again...

what guys do u think this thing?if it can, when?20years,50years? never?
 

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I think it can but it will take at least an other 15 years.
You also have to pass the image not just the results. :cheers:
 

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shibuya_suki said:
as we know, shanghai was the top asia leading city on 1920-30s,tokyo was second at that time...
You'd better not forget about the obvious fact that Shanghai was the occupied territory by UK, USA, Japan, and France at that time.
but Tokyo was not of course. And Tokyo (and Osaka as well) has subway lines even before WW2.
 

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Economic data of Shanghai
If the Population does not contain the floating population,things will be like this.
2002GDP:65.40billion us dollar
nominal increase rate:15.56% actual gdp increase rate:11.8%
2003GDP:75.58billion us dollar---Population:13.42million---GDP per capita:5632 us dollar
nominal increase rate:19.21% actual gdp increase rate:13.6%
2004GDP:90.10billion us dollar---Population:13.52million---GDP per capita:6664 us dollar
conjecture
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2005GDP:104.52billion us dollar---Population:13.62million---GDP per capita:7674 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2006GDP:121.24billion us dollar---Population:13.73million---GDP per capita:8830 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2007GDP:140.64billion us dollar---Population:13.84million---GDP per capita:10162 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2008GDP:163.14billion us dollar---Population:13.95million---GDP per capita:11695 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2009GDP:189.24billion us dollar---Population:14.06million---GDP per capita:13459 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:[2010 Shanghai EXPO]
2010GDP:219.52billion us dollar---Population:14.17million---GDP per capita:15492 us dollar


If the Population contains the floating population,things will be like this.
2002GDP:65.40billion us dollar
nominal increase rate:15.56% actual gdp increase rate:11.8%
2003GDP:75.58billion us dollar---Population:17.00million---GDP per capita:4446 us dollar
nominal increase rate:19.21% actual gdp increase rate:13.6%
2004GDP:90.10billion us dollar---Population:17.50million---GDP per capita:5149 us dollar
conjecture
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2005GDP:104.52billion us dollar---Population:18.00million---GDP per capita:5807 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2006GDP:121.24billion us dollar---Population:18.40million---GDP per capita:6589 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2007GDP:140.64billion us dollar---Population:18.80million---GDP per capita:7481 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2008GDP:163.14billion us dollar---Population:19.20million---GDP per capita:8497 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
2009GDP:189.24billion us dollar---Population:19.60million---GDP per capita:9655 us dollar
nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:[2010 Shanghai EXPO]
2010GDP:219.52billion us dollar---Population:20.00million---GDP per capita:10976 us dollar
 

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Shanghai should surpass Singapore and HK first.
 

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If the Population contains the floating population,things will be like this.
2002GDP:65.40billion us dollar
2003:nominal increase rate:15.56% actual gdp increase rate:11.8%
GDP:75.58billion us dollar---Population:17.00million---GDP per capita:4446 us dollar
2004:nominal increase rate:19.21% actual gdp increase rate:13.6%
GDP:90.10billion us dollar---Population:17.50million---GDP per capita:5149 us dollar
conjecture
2005:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:104.52billion us dollar---Population:18.00million---GDP per capita:5807 us dollar
2006:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:121.24billion us dollar---Population:18.40million---GDP per capita:6589 us dollar
2007:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:140.64billion us dollar---Population:18.80million---GDP per capita:7481 us dollar
2008:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:163.14billion us dollar---Population:19.20million---GDP per capita:8497 us dollar
2009:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:189.24billion us dollar---Population:19.60million---GDP per capita:9655 us dollar
2010:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:[2010 Shanghai EXPO]
GDP:219.52billion us dollar---Population:20.00million---GDP per capita:10976 us dollar
2011:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:254.64billion us dollar---Population:20.40million---GDP per capita:12482 us dollar
2012:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:295.38billion us dollar---Population:20.80million---GDP per capita:14201 us dollar
2013:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:342.64billion us dollar---Population:21.20million---GDP per capita:16162 us dollar
2014:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:397.46billion us dollar---Population:21.60million---GDP per capita:18401 us dollar
2015:nominal increase rate:16.00% actual gdp increase rate:
GDP:461.05billion us dollar---Population:22.00million---GDP per capita:20957 us dollar
 

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No. Well not in the 21st century i dont think. Shanghai has too much competition from Beijing and HK to outstrip Tokyo. I see it on a scale of like the German cities where there is no ultra-dominant city.
 

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It would be difficult, but nothing is impossible.
 

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I think it will happen sometime around 2030-2060( if trends hold true). But if it beats Tokyo in economic importance between 2030-45 people will probably still think Tokyo over Shanghai
 

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Not in our lifetimes. Tokyo is too dominant in Japan, whereas as Madman said, China has too much competition amongst its cities to have one Tokyo-style cities.
 

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Madman said:
No. Well not in the 21st century i dont think. Shanghai has too much competition from Beijing and HK to outstrip Tokyo. I see it on a scale of like the German cities where there is no ultra-dominant city.
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well, even though shanghai is billed as china's premiere commercial city, there are too many large cities to compete with, not just beijing and hong kong but also guangzhou, shenzhen, and chonqing.
 

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Chngjiang delta may become a super metro in the future
 

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