I think the CTA could, and wish it could.. because there is no way the 2nd largest transit coverage (after NYC) could no avoid, but if in anycase happens, Chicago will be very sad, and downstate Illinois will take the blame for it, for not lending chicago any help.
Will the CTA ordeal be sorted out?
Will the CTA ordeal be sorted out?-UPDATE!
Do you think the CTA budget ordeal will be sorted out, and that the city can avoid these cuts? Sense I'm fascinated/frightened by the subject, I though it'd be interesting to see what you guys think.
Do you think the CTA budget ordeal will be sorted out, and that the city can avoid these cuts? Sense I'm fascinated/frightened by the subject, I though it'd be interesting to see what you guys think.
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^ :lol:Azn_chi_boi said:but if in anycase happens, Chicago will be very sad, and downstate Illinois will take the blame for it
Splendid!
^Azn_chi_boi said:I think the CTA could, and wish it could.. because there is no way the 2nd largest transit coverage (after NYC) could no avoid, but if in anycase happens, Chicago will be very sad, and downstate Illinois will take the blame for it, for not lending chicago any help.
Not bad logic kid!
Good for you!
Woah...I was looking at the route elimination plan, and it's horrible! It seems like almost half the bus lines are disconnected 
I think it will be sorted out and what we have here is a high stakes game of chicken. Although we'll find out soon.
My bus is on the chopping block for all but rush hour service during the week (Damen) so I hope they get it sorted out or I'll be facing some long walks to Western or Ashland when I want to go north.
My bus is on the chopping block for all but rush hour service during the week (Damen) so I hope they get it sorted out or I'll be facing some long walks to Western or Ashland when I want to go north.
It's all just politics and positioning. The CTA is just telling us all the doom and gloom scenarios so they end up looking like saviors at the end when nothing that bad happens. First rule of sales, underpromise and overdeliver! Just like the whole Northerly Island/Meigs Field drama. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of years down the road Mayor Daley turns it back into an airport in exchange for a Chicago-owned casino. All the while we've been calling it urban planning, Mayor Daley has been calling it chess and what we see as projects are just the pawns he uses to play the game.
If the extreme happens with CTA Daley would be out. Chicago....we vote them and keep them if they keep our streets plowed, garbage picked up and transportation running. Miss one of those...you are out of here baby.
Oh hell, I just looked at that route elimination. THEY ARE CUTTING THE #56!!. I ride that thing home every day, those bastards. Chicago3rd is right. If this happens Daley will be on his ass, this would be his Blizzard of '79. Only he'd have even less of an excuse for this massive failure to act than Bilandic.
damn....
CTA board opts for fare hike, service cuts
Tribune staff reports
Published April 13, 2005, 2:42 PM CDT
Chicago Transit Authority riders who pay by cash will face higher fares this summer, and many bus and train services—such as the Evanston Express—will disappear, under a spending plan approved today by the CTA board.
The fare hike and service cuts take effect July 17 unless the Illinois General Assembly accedes to CTA requests for increased state funding for the transit agency. Officials estimated they would lose 25 percent of their customers—more than 100 million rides a year—under the new budget
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050413cta,1,6449918.story?coll=chi-news-hed
CTA board opts for fare hike, service cuts
Tribune staff reports
Published April 13, 2005, 2:42 PM CDT
Chicago Transit Authority riders who pay by cash will face higher fares this summer, and many bus and train services—such as the Evanston Express—will disappear, under a spending plan approved today by the CTA board.
The fare hike and service cuts take effect July 17 unless the Illinois General Assembly accedes to CTA requests for increased state funding for the transit agency. Officials estimated they would lose 25 percent of their customers—more than 100 million rides a year—under the new budget
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050413cta,1,6449918.story?coll=chi-news-hed
Those downstate sons o bitches better pony up. The CTA carries so many more people to work for each dollar than every downstate road improvement. ZThe CTA's budget needs to be balanced on budget cuts for other people outside the city who have enjoyed the reflected glow, both economic and social, of Chicago for so many years.
I think an optimal solution would be to give like 70-80% of what the CTA wants. This forces them to become more efficient but doesn't make them collapse.
I really love Chicago, and I have long considered it my favorite city. But if the CTA cuts go through, I will be so angered and dissappointed that I will stop taking interest in this place, and I definitely will have no plans to live there. I refuse to live in a second rate city. Hell, even DC has a good transit system.
Here's more bullshit from the suntimes today:
Little sympathy from Downstate for plight here
BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND BEN FISCHER Sun-Times Springfield Bureau
SPRINGFIELD -- The apocalyptic plan the CTA adopted Wednesday to survive without an infusion of new state dollars failed to move legislative skeptics, who warned the transit agency not to pin its hopes on an imminent bailout from empty state coffers.
"They have to live within their means," said Senate Minority Leader Frank Watson (R-Greenville). "If that means budget cuts, reduced ridership, limiting their routes, then that's a decision they have to make. . . . I think they need to get their own house in order, just as we're attempting to do."
Gov. Blagojevich's proposed CTA rescue -- imposing a new $65 million tax on computer software purchased by businesses -- has failed to gain much traction this spring in Springfield.
Republicans don't want to hit businesses in their pocketbooks, while Downstate lawmakers from both parties are loath to sign on to any Chicago bailout without getting money for their own crumbling roads, bridges and transit.
"This isn't going to fly," Watson said of the governor's proposal.
But Blagojevich stuck by his guns. "Instead of voting on doomsday scenarios and scaring people, the CTA should be working to pass the canned software loophole and generate the money they need," Blagojevich said in a statement.
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^That's what happens when you build too much redundant infrastructure. America is so f#$king STUPID!
Here's more bullshit from the suntimes today:
Little sympathy from Downstate for plight here
BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND BEN FISCHER Sun-Times Springfield Bureau
SPRINGFIELD -- The apocalyptic plan the CTA adopted Wednesday to survive without an infusion of new state dollars failed to move legislative skeptics, who warned the transit agency not to pin its hopes on an imminent bailout from empty state coffers.
"They have to live within their means," said Senate Minority Leader Frank Watson (R-Greenville). "If that means budget cuts, reduced ridership, limiting their routes, then that's a decision they have to make. . . . I think they need to get their own house in order, just as we're attempting to do."
Gov. Blagojevich's proposed CTA rescue -- imposing a new $65 million tax on computer software purchased by businesses -- has failed to gain much traction this spring in Springfield.
Republicans don't want to hit businesses in their pocketbooks, while Downstate lawmakers from both parties are loath to sign on to any Chicago bailout without getting money for their own crumbling roads, bridges and transit.
"This isn't going to fly," Watson said of the governor's proposal.
But Blagojevich stuck by his guns. "Instead of voting on doomsday scenarios and scaring people, the CTA should be working to pass the canned software loophole and generate the money they need," Blagojevich said in a statement.
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^That's what happens when you build too much redundant infrastructure. America is so f#$king STUPID!
No shit, it might be enough to make me revisit my failed attempts to move out east that I abandon 3 years ago.
Okay, perhaps I was a bit extreme in my last statement. Sorry, but I am just plain very pissed about this situation.
I would hate to see this happen to Chicago after seeing so much rebirth and progress over the past several years. What a friggin' bummer
I would hate to see this happen to Chicago after seeing so much rebirth and progress over the past several years. What a friggin' bummer
Ah man. This makes me so depressed
I'm so hoping that the state somehow comes to the rescue. Is there much hope?
I'm so hoping that the state somehow comes to the rescue. Is there much hope?
"The following outlines the proposed CTA Service Reductions and
Eliminations that were approved by the Chicago Transit Board
at its April meeting to be implemented on July 17.
The service reductions and eliminations do not become official
until the Chicago Transit Board Chairman signs the ordinance."
Does this mean that they are still waiting for the state to take action?
Eliminations that were approved by the Chicago Transit Board
at its April meeting to be implemented on July 17.
The service reductions and eliminations do not become official
until the Chicago Transit Board Chairman signs the ordinance."
Does this mean that they are still waiting for the state to take action?
^Dude, read the fricking newspottebaum said:"The following outlines the proposed CTA Service Reductions and
Eliminations that were approved by the Chicago Transit Board
at its April meeting to be implemented on July 17.
The service reductions and eliminations do not become official
until the Chicago Transit Board Chairman signs the ordinance."
Does this mean that they are still waiting for the state to take action?
^lol, I did. After I read the latest posts in this thread, I went straight the google and saw quite a few articles that stated the state could still come in. But when I went to the CTA site, the wording made it seem like they had completely given up!
So much bad news today....has there been any positive press releases recently? Are you guys still thinking this will all get sorted out?
Like always, I'm probably worrying to much, but I'm having a hard time enjoying Chicago when I know something like this could happen....
Like always, I'm probably worrying to much, but I'm having a hard time enjoying Chicago when I know something like this could happen....
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