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Questionable list. Tokyo, Petra, Cape Town, Santiago. No doubt great cities, but most loved? I find it hilarious that the CNN of everyone came up with this list - could their journalists even tell you where Petra or Santiago is?
 

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Yes this list seems completely stupid...i always heard about how nice Sydney was..and Paris belongs to the cities people use to love! -> completely useless ranking...
 

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Their reasoning/methodology is great too.... :nuts:

Los Angeles,

To clarify, we’re talking about the one in California. Not Los Angeles, Texas (pop. 20), a little spot near San Antonio that adopted the name in 1923 as an unsuccessful promotional stunt. Nobody you know has anything bad to say about that place.

Not so for this center-less megalopolis sloppily carved into about 90 sub-cities, over 20 ailing freeways, countless area codes and a half-million strip malls with mediocre Thai food.

How did a semi-arid desert without a decent water supply get so huge -- and so hugely disliked?

Stealing water didn’t help, but that was a long time ago.

“When you get there, there is no there, there,” says one of many underwhelmed L.A. bashers on quora.com, who adds that tourist traps like Hollywood are a total bummer.

So are earthquakes, race riots, traffic pileups, smog reports, constant sirens and the irksome sense that people who live here are okay with all of that because the weather’s nicer than wherever they moved from.

However it happened, “I hate L.A.” has evolved into a kneejerk not just for obvious rivals like San Francisco but virtually every other American city full of folks who may never have actually been to L.A. but can just imagine.

Not even Randy Newman can sing over a PR mudslide like that.

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Sydney/Melbourne,

Australia’s top two cities would be nowhere near this list if it weren’t for the 177 straight years of utter hatred they’ve reserved for each other.

Since the founding of Melbourne in 1835 (by exactly the kind of pennywise, do-gooder farmboys that Sydney’s felon founders had no patience for), Sydneysiders and Melburnians have been loathingly distinguishing themselves from each other in ways that would make Toronto and Montreal blush.

Still, they may have overlooked the greatest source of antipathy of all, notes Anthony Sharwood in The Punch.

“Sydney and Melbourne have much, much more in common than either of them ever care to admit.” In fact, “Melbourne is the city in the world most similar to Sydney.”

About 4 million multicultural residents spread across a trendy downtown area with sprawling suburbs, high home prices, a vibrant food and arts scene, Australian TV and radio stations, the occasional bushfire and an intense repugnance for a certain unspeakable place 720 kilometers away.

Which city are we talking about here? Either Melbourne or Sydney, perhaps?

But wait. There is a startling difference. Last year, The Economist ranked Melbourne the “World’s Most Livable City” with 97.5 points. Sydney came in sixth in this same survey with 96.1 points.

Do the math. These places are like fire and ice.

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Paris,

Paris inspires a certain love-hate relationship.

Not just for fans of old Renoir or Chevy Chase movies, but for travelers too -- who inspired us to feature this singular place twice. Here and in last week’s column: “World's most loved cities.”

What do people love about Paris? If you don’t already know, click the link to find out.

In the meantime, what do people not love about Paris, aside from the usual rude waiter stereotypes, crazy lines at the Louvre and the city’s knack for rekindling long-kicked smoking habits about 10 minutes after landing?

“I was wondering what was so special about the 'French Breakfast' that I saw advertised everywhere we went,” comments a frequent Paris traveler on VirtualTourist, who sat down and ordered one during his first visit to the city. “For 20 euros you get a croissant, butter, three ounces of hot chocolate, three ounces of orange juice and a small baguette. Are you kidding??”

“Don’t be too easily flattered as you approach the Place du Tertre in Montmartre,” another visitor warns about platoons of starving artists bombarding first-timers to have their portrait done. “I've now lost count of the number of times we've been told that [my husband] has 'interesting hair.’”

“I just read of someone’s four-hour wait to ascend the Eiffel Tower and recalled the coldest I had ever been -- the day I waited atop the platform on the Eiffel Tower, waiting to go to the next level.”

“We made our way to the catacombs hoping to find an extraordinary sight,” says another. “Unfortunately, it was nothing but rooms and rooms and rooms full of bones.”

Every legendary city suffers some degree of overhype. About the food, the views, the charming street scene, the faint possibility of jumping into a car at the stroke of midnight and riding into a more exciting era with Ernest Hemingway & friends, etc.

But the dreamy expectations reserved for Paris -- propagated by generations of writers who haven’t been here in awhile -- are in their own league.

What first-timer here isn’t going to be a little disillusioned after wandering around for hours with checklists, arrondissement maps and dog-poop-soiled shoes without finding a decent place for a quick bite?
 

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Indeed. Very stupid list.

How can Paris be one of the most hated cities when it's the most visited city in the world by tourists?

Really makes no sense at all.
 

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Vanilla is called the "most loved" ice cream flavor. Is it the best? Of course not. But it's the only flavor in its category, while other flavors all share categories (how many kinds of chocolate ice cream are there?). So a lazy methodology that only grades each person's #1 choice is won by the flavor that gets 7%, even if the various chocolate flavors combined might be 40% or whatever. If people could rank 20 flavors, vanilla might rank #20 with the majority.

Likewise, the results will be completely different if people are just naming their #1 best and worst, or actually ranking cities, or giving a long list of cities grades. Further, some lists involve self-selected voters, and others are actual polls. Sometimes they even try to include something from each region.

In this case, plenty of people have bad impressions of LA. Paris equals France, which the US right wing hates because France acted correctly about Iraq. Sydney and Melbourne must have voted against each other, and/or fell into the "region" trap where someone had to lose and they happened to tie, even though the rest of the world has terrific impressions of both.
 
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