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Discussion starter · #22 ·
The problem is Pitt Street Mall isn't as wide as Queen Street Mall, so it wouldn't be as feasible.
Yeah, Sydney's skinny little streets makes it hard to have the cafe's and artwork in the mall ala Rundle Mall and Queen St Mall. It's also VERy difficult to extend or expand the mall from it's current confines eg extend the mall a block south down Pitt St or have a parallel mall running along Castlereagh because it would cause absolute traffic chaos!!
 
i know i'm gonna get in trouble for this... but i don't like Federation Square. i mean its ok. but i can just see it being out dated rather then architecture wonder. some thing more classic European/ queen victoria building or more NYC times square would be nice
There's nothing very "classic" about the QVB. It's a victorian mish-mash. I mean, it's pretty, but not timeless.
 
Yeah, Sydney's skinny little streets makes it hard to have the cafe's and artwork in the mall ala Rundle Mall and Queen St Mall. It's also VERy difficult to extend or expand the mall from it's current confines eg extend the mall a block south down Pitt St or have a parallel mall running along Castlereagh because it would cause absolute traffic chaos!!
It doesn't have to be in the middle. The cafes can always front onto the mall from Centrepoint etc.
 
I agree, Pitt Street looks like a second-rate provincial town's high-street, it's a national disgrace. They could do so much with that strip of car-free street. Just look at Brisbane's Queen St. Pitt Street is a mockery of a shambles.
 
I want a Federation Square style square.
Striking and modern architecture that draws people into the area.
Lots of open spaces with tables and chairs.
A huge screen on the side of a building so people can congregate to watch stuff like the World Cup.
Bars and outdoor eateries on the perimeter.
Great artwork.
A strong overall theme that makes a real statement and becomes an attraction in itself.
:cheers:
Nailed it. Should definitely be a strong urban space, as opposed to a small park which i think would be a really poor waste of space and council money. I think a priority for this site should be lots of outdoor seating with late night bars and cafes but with an emphasis on public space - somewhere people will feel compelled to hang out late into the night, making the most of Sydney's warm climate.
 
I agree, Pitt Street looks like a second-rate provincial town's high-street, it's a national disgrace. They could do so much with that strip of car-free street. Just look at Brisbane's Queen St. Pitt Street is a mockery of a shambles.
Even though there are inevitable breaks in it for vehicular traffic, Martin Place makes up for it.

Once the Mid-City Centre's retail component is madeover, hopefully Pitt St Mall will improve a tad. The Sydney Arcade is so far the best thing to happen to The Mall in recent times.

...but that is only one part of Sydney's CBD retail. The city's retail is covered:

* From Wynyard Station along George St to World Square

* From the MLC Centre to George St for Martin Place

* From Macquarie St to George St for King St

* From Martin Place to Park St for Castlereagh St

* From Martin Place to World Square for Pitt St (including the mall)

* By Clarence St behind The QVB

* By The QVB, Galleries Victoria, The Skyview Shopping Centre @ Meriton Tower & the soon to be opened 3-level Regent Place Shopping Centre & next year, theskyvue retail component

* By Pitt St Mall with its off-shoots ie both The Strand & Sydney Arcades, Skygarden, Centrepoint, (the soon to be madeover) Mid-City Centre, Sydney Central Plaza with Myer

* By Circular Quay & The Rocks

* By Chinatown including Market City Shopping Centre
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
I would think that there would be a newly developed retail compenent underneath Town Hall Square which Woolies would move into.
A bit like the (small ) Coles supermarket down the southern end of George St which is underground.
 
By and when they decide to give Sydney the badly needed Cross Harbour Rail Line, due for completion in 2017 (har har), we would imagine that a retail link would be set in place between the new Park St Station and the exisitng Town Hall Station concourse. Maybe an opportunity for the outlet to expand somehow there...all with new park/city square in tact.

As I've said before, Woolies will still keep a small corporate office downtown somewhere when they completely move from the exisiting building.
 
I've always hoped that they'll let Woolies stay, but put them underground in the space under City Square, between Town Hall and the new Park St underground. That Woolies makes more than all of the other city supermarkets combined so hopefully it'll stay in some form.
It's the only big supermarket in the CBD. With more people moving into the CBD, there has to be a major supermarket to cater for their needs. Will be sad to see it go.
 
Yeah and if you read the original article in this thread ..

The emergence of Aldi and Hong Kong's grocery giant Citysuper, beneath Lumiere, the residential tower in George Street's cinema district, is bound to fuel a battle for the city's grocery dollar.

Most of the Citysuper stores are around 3,000-5000sqm which is is a standard med-large size for a suburban Coles/Woolies
 
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