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Application Number: 2021/08717/PA
Application Type: Full Planning
Site Address: Corner of Princip Street and Lower Loveday Street, Newtown, Birmingham, B4.
Proposal: Demolition of all buildings and the erection of 75 apartments comprising 32 x 1 bed and 37 x 2 bed apartments, and 6 townhouses and resident's amenity
Developer: Hatchbury (Wild Grey Developments Ltd)
Architect: BPN Architects
Landscape Architect
: Robert Colbourne
Project Manager, Client Rep
: PMP Consultants
Civil & Structural Engineer
: Couch Consulting Engineers
M&E Engiener: Halligan Consulting
Acoustics: Hoare Lea
Fire Engineer: Ashton Fire
Principal Contractor: Kavannagh Construction
Planning Consultant: PJ Planning
H&S Advisor: CDM Associates
Demolition Contractor: PBM Contractors

This Hatchbury development, their second Birmingham scheme after The Photographic Works, will rejuvenate the 1960s warehouse site with 77 new homes, balconies, terraces, gardens and communal outdoor spaces.

The existing site is now vacant with the last lease running out in March 2022.

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The site will then be on the straight and narrow to be demolished, before construction provides a range of studios, one & two-bedroom apartments, townhouses and a duplex.

There will be a heavily landscaped internal courtyard, with all ground floor apartments equipped with their own private gardens within it. Apartments will also feature recessed or Juliette balconies. It's a car-free scheme with up to 75 cycle spaces included.

Following approval, procurements & the relevant discharging of conditions, demolition will commence, with construction thereafter.

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Looks very nice inside with the gardens etc - if they look like that - and it does generally look encouraging. Not sure it does much for the ambience of the street scene though - brick is fine for me, but it lacks anything to set it off - trees, some detail, I'm not sure what exactly.
 
There’s a huge opportunity here for Shadwell St, considering Snow Hill Wharf has made the whole length of the street one way, and now with the LTN on Lower Loveday St, the road has become very quiet, and there’s a opportunity here to make the road a narrow tree lined boulevard which would be a fantastic connection between St Chads tram stop all the way through to the Aston University student accommodation area, with the addition of Lancaster Wharf and Princip Street developments too.

These are the things the City planners should be looking in to, it’s all fun implementing LTNs everywhere, but then there’s no ambition to go further. Would be a great entrance into the GQ and would also avoid navigating through St Chad Queensway and Lancaster Circus.
 
There’s a huge opportunity here for Shadwell St, considering Snow Hill Wharf has made the whole length of the street one way, and now with the LTN on Lower Loveday St, the road has become very quiet, and there’s a opportunity here to make the road a narrow tree lined boulevard which would be a fantastic connection between St Chads tram stop all the way through to the Aston University student accommodation area, with the addition of Lancaster Wharf and Princip Street developments too.

These are the things the City planners should be looking in to, it’s all fun implementing LTNs everywhere, but then there’s no ambition to go further. Would be a great entrance into the GQ and would also avoid navigating through St Chad Queensway and Lancaster Circus.
My guess is something like what you have said will be the next steps for all of those LTN roads. The restrictions are mainly marked by temporary barriers. My guess is that when these are replaced, the treatment of the roads will be in the discussion. It a bit like the ones in Snowhill which at first were marked out by road markings for a few years before the pocket parks were put in place.
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
PBM Contractors to demolish the derelict site, on behalf of Kavannagh Construction, who'll then build the scheme out for Hatchbury:

Application Number2024/06100/PA
Application TypeDischarge Of Condition
Site Address2 2-4 Loveday Street Gun Quarter Birmingham B4 6LE
ProposalApplication to determine the details for condition numbers 12. (demolition method statement) and 13. (construction method statement/management plan) attached to planning application 2021/08717/PA
 

Application for a non-material amendment to planning approval 2021/08717/PA to amend the wording of development description to read as Demolition of all buildings and the erection of 77 apartments (C3) comprising 32 x 1 bed, 39 x 2 bed and 6 (2 bed) duplexes and resident's amenity

Summary of changes:-

• Building footprint & Layout Changes to ensure full compliance with Fire Safety, to rationalise the floor plans, improve apartment layouts and maximise efficiency across the scheme;
• Minimal Architectural Design Changes that reflect the internal layout redesign and mainly involve swapping of doors and window locations across facades
• Mansard Roof Design Changes onto the gable facade to provide better quality spaces to the mansard duplex apartments and simplify the design and construction of the roof;
 

Sales Launch in April and projected completion end of 2026

 
looks like Kavannagh Construction2 Ltd are on this one




Application Details
  • Application Number2025/01116/PA
  • Application TypeDischarge Of Condition
  • Site Address44-47 Comet Works Princip Street Birmingham B4 6NS
  • ProposalApplication to determine the details for condition numbers 1. (demolition contract) 2. (method statement) 3. (materials) 4. (bonding) attached to planning application 2024/07121/PA.

Application Details
  • Application Number2025/01115/PA
  • Application TypeDischarge Of Condition
  • Site AddressSite corner of Princip Street and Lower Loveday Street Birmingham
  • ProposalApplication to determine the details for condition number 15. (bird/bat boxes) attached to planning application 2021/08717/PA
 
Right (rubs hands) let's see them value engineer the arches out........


...place your bets....
 
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